"Dalek, leave us." 17:29, January 2, 2010 (UTC), While that's very possible, I think that it's some sort of entity, think Unicron from Transformers, it doesn't strike me as being small enough to be a monster.Excalibur-117 17:40, January 2, 2010 (UTC). Delton Menace 01:28, March 7, 2010 (UTC), I think the Nightmare Child is an ancient crap head, rather like the Beast, Abaddon and Durac. i think that it hasnt been described becauses it is something too terible for the human mind to concieve, (like one of the previous posts said) born in the fires of war, pain, suffering and hate, literaly the child of nightmares.217.23.232.194 09:07, July 27, 2010 (UTC). The Nightmare of Black Island is a BBC Books original novel written by Mike Tucker and based on the long-running science fiction television series Doctor Who. also the Master ran from the time war before the Nightmare child was introduced so i doubt he had any involvement in its creation/construction/or birth... As for the creature from midnight, it had to be somewhat corporal as it managed to rip off the entire front section of the train. Bait-and-Switch Comment: Davros only wanted the Doctor to watch as the Nightmare Child consumed his command ship. Death itself appeared in Torchwood series 2, literally came from the darkness itself. Delton Menace 17:12, January 2, 2010 (UTC), The Doctor seemed to be scared of the things in the time war and what scares the doctor the most... somthing that just kills. A schoolteacher keeps seeing a strange little girl in her apartment building. And it is dipicted as a child, like a demonic child. 'The nightmare child will follow!' The whole "birth" of the nightmare child could've just been in reference to the construction of a vessel so powerful, as the time lords are supposed to be a peaceful race. If we are lazy...the stuffs the Doctor mentioned could pretty much just be abstract labels of normal stuff we expected out of a Time War: Moreover, we know how bloody fragile Timelord technology is: blow a TARDIS, the Universe collapse; random stuff for meaningless rituals is actually a superpowerful random stuff that can destroy the Universe and rip open realities (something like that); and creating a superprison that would be opened if any timetraveller touched it despite that Davros or other parties may want to release Daleks. In the first year of the War, Davros' command ship was seemingly destroyed at the Gates of Elysium after flying into the jaws of the Nightmare Child. Attack Pattern Alpha: Dalek Attack Formation Seven is apparently a straight line. I would imagine it would resemble a child, but would be a giant monster, about the size of a building. 'Grandfather!' I don't think it's very likely that it's a literal animate creature...as the Doctor said Davros' ship flew into the jaws of Nightmare Child, people usually don't fly into an animate creature....and it's a pretty odd image to conjure up. "You cannot escape from the jaws of the Nightmare Child!" Dalek; A TARDIS; Additional Tags: Prose Poem; Language: English Stats: Published: 2014-11-30 Words: 87 Chapters: 1/1 Kudos: 4 Bookmarks: 1 Hits: 104. The Nightmare Child The Last Great Time War. A possiblitiy is that: we don't know all of the factions in the Time War. Feumas 23:12, February 16, 2010 (UTC), Ah, yes, I am going through all the episodes in order, haven't got there yet. (TV: The End of Time), By the end of the Time War, Earth was duplicated thousands of times over to be used as bullets to fire at the Nightmare Child. Its first alien villains, the Daleks became an instant hit. I removed that. (TV: The End of Time), When reliving a memory from his eighth incarnation, the Tenth Doctor recalled "laugh[ing] in the face of the Nightmare Child". The nightmare child also does not care about good or evil it simply kills everything and its large enough to grab a small comand ship out of the sky and eat it so I'd say 700 ft esily. Hence thats why Davros flew into it. There is no more need for a doctor." The Time War. Russel has said so about the events of the Time War, it is beyond visualisation, otherwise there is no mystery to it. Maybe the Nightmare Child is simply death. The Daleks first appeared on television in 1963, in the second serial of Doctor Who. (PROSE: The Third Wise Man) Another account claimed the Eighth Doctor, the incarnation of the Doctor before the War Doctor, had been present instead. https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Third_Wise_Man_(short_story) The Gates of Elysium were an antimatter cascade, a pit of clashing realities. NIGHTMARE CHILD EMERGING!'' Jim393 19:57, January 8, 2010 (UTC), I recon it is a giant bug like thing that Davros flew into. But this time the Doctor appeared a bit more... frightened when mentioning it. Though, saying a metaphor will return with the breaking of the Time Lock seems to stretch it a little :P Cannon881 21:09, March 6, 2010 (UTC), The Nightmare Child was born in the most firerce war in history (as in, BORN?! In my mind the nightmare child is a white skinned demon with flesh rotting and falling off it's black bones with a face like The Beast in The Satan Pit. Is it an entity, a monster, something else? The nightmare child also does not care about good or evil it simply kills everything and its large enough to grab a small comand ship out … And with a new face no less?" Summary: Hush now, darling...go to sleep... Work Text: May father guide you through your dreams. 123.2.98.12 14:10, March 13, 2010 (UTC), OR it could be something the Time Lords made possibly with the help of the Master (as he was bred for war) and it could have gone out of control. Do you get what I mean :P ? The Prime Minister ordered the abduction of the Eleventh Doctor and his companions, Amy Pond and Rory Williams, summoning them to the Parliament of the Daleks and granting them a mission to lower the indestructible force field of the Dalek Asylumso it could be destroyed to prevent the Daleks in the Asylum from breaking out. Davros sent a distress signal to the War Doctor, who attempted to save him. I agree when the Eternals left reality, it would've come out to play. We know that there are cthulu-like monsters in Doctor Who. Davros' command ship flew into the "jaws" of this being during the first year of the war at the Gates of Elysium. The evil dude. Like a really big space-quid, just extremly horrifying and deformed. 'No I won't let her!' Davros was believed to have been killed. I think the nightmare child was a timelord(or other faction) super ship, (somewhat like a vorlon planet crusher), and the whole "devros" flying into its jaws was akin to the crucible attempting to take it out while it was firing its primary weapon (like in independence day, where they took down the ships by destroying the main weapon as they fire) but failed and was obliterated. Their scheme involves treachery at the highest levels, and a weapon capable of destroying the very fabric of time. Elsa kept up the barrage of ice until the Monster froze solid inside the Zoo. The ultimate demise to which nothing can escape, a neverending cataclysim...either that or it's one REALLY scary bloody monster. Once this had been achieved by the human-turned-Dalek, Oswin Oswald, the Parliament launched an attack to destroy the Asylum. ''EMERGENCY! The Prime Minister's memory of the Doctor had b… But the name is damn creepy. plausibly, the Time Lords during the Time War could have attempted to circumvent their reproductive issues, creating for themselves the children they wished they had been able to have; and that unwise effort spawned something horrible beyond all imagining. The Tenth Doctor believed, in 2008's The Stolen Earth, that Davros' command ship had flown into the jaws of the Nightmare Child - an often discussed but never depicted monstrosity from the Time War. The whole army of meanwhiles and neverwheres could just be timelord soilders, recall the council members did say that at the very heart of the time war people were dieing, and being revived only to die in another more dire way, these "people" would of course have been driven mad by the constant war. He was created by screenwriter Terry Nation, originally for the 1975 serial Genesis of the Daleks. A certain horror of the Last Great Time War is only mentioned in passing, the name only remembered in legend. Even its name really creeps me out, sounds pretty weird/creepy/sinister, in my opinion. The cult of skaro was in the time war, maybe it was one of their mad experiments that went out of control. In my mind the nightmare child is a white skinned demon with flesh rotting and falling off it's black bones with a face like The Beast in The Satan Pit. The Nightmare Child's Lullaby (Poem) DoctorDalek. Even if they couldn't, that is not something that they would be worrying about during the timewar, since they could bring people back to life to fight in it anyway, without waiting for them to grow up. To the Time Lord that became known only as The Nightmare Child, this fact presented an intriguing possibility. Elsa returned to her human form and the now Frozen Nightmare Child shattered into a million pieces just as the bomber plane arrived. Back from the Dead: Davros, who at this point has to be considered a professional resurrector. --AleXM 09:59, December 5, 2010, There isn't an episode that suggests that timelords can't reproduce, and the fact that they only have 12 regenerations, and didn't go extinct before the time war proves that they can reproduce. For the most part, in the early days of the Time War the Time Lords had not shown much interest in pushing the boundaries of what regeneration could entail. Davros is a major enemy of the series' protagonist, the Doctor, and is the creator of the Doctor's deadliest enemies, the Daleks. Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 04:12, March 9, 2010 (UTC), I think it's something the daleks made. They mentioned "his emtpire." The Doctor confronts the supreme Dalek in Davros' chair to get back Clara. Davros’ command ship flew into the jaws of the Nightmare Child, and the Gates of Elysium closed behind them. The Nightmare Child was the first and only specimen of a new type of Dalek, created by Davros during the first year of the Last Great Time War. By what it is, I mean by what form is it? It was the location where Davros tried to kill the Nightmare Child during the Last Great Time War. Lutennant Vell the jugde. Picture [edit source] kSteed ☎ 03:39, 29 November 2020 (UTC) Why is Dalek Emperor concept art from Series 1 art being used or the Nightmae Child? If the timelords did create the nightmare child, than they meant for it to be some kind of monster, or whatever it was, so that they could use it against the Daleks.Icecreamdif 00:25, December 7, 2010 (UTC), it might be the devil himself that the timelords somehow released, The Nightmare child wasn't featured in the day of the doctor so i don't know. --Catkind121 21:47, January 8, 2010 (UTC), Wait a sec, can anyone tell me if this was mentioned anywhere apart from in The End of Time? Davros saw it as the "perfect Dalek," rising above the flaws of every other Dalek. -- Olle1306 22:49, March 5, 2010 (UTC), Simply death? Of golden threads and silver streams. Legend of the Nightmare Child: Doctor Who. It sounds like the Nightmare Child may have been a huge, demonic monster, or something. Someone mentioned earlier that it sounded 'Cthulu'. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. (TV: Planet of the Daleks) Amongst the humanised Daleks of Kyrol, scientists such as … Storyline In the year 4000, the Daleks conspire to conquer the Solar System. Unbeknownst to the Doctor, who had tried to save him, Davros was rescued by Dalek Caan , who had escaped the events of " Evolution of the Daleks " (2007) via an emergency temporal shift. Shouted Susan The Doctor had always described it as something not nice at all. (Video Archive: The Stolen Earth) The Tenth Doctor said "I saw Arcadia destroyed. It was published on 21 September 2006, alongside The Art of Destruction and The Price of Paradise . Most of the species that inhabited the universe were unaware of the war, with only species of higher existence capable of observing the scarring upon the universe. Except, the freaking thing is, how on Earth did it knock when it didn't have a physical form? "Not only will I escape from the Nightmare Child but I shall… Even among the Daleks the twisted abomination known as the Nightmare Child was feared and avoided. But what … Some of the weapons are creepifying just by their names — the Dalek fleet that "flew into the jaws of the Nightmare Child" is one hell of a Noodle Incident to ponder. Davros is a character from the long-running British science fiction television series Doctor Who. (TV: The Stolen Earth) Afterward, the Child itself fell into the Gates, and they closed and disappeared behind it. With these two races: one is igorant, the other is idiotic, and both equally reckless, they are bound to create something catastrophic...I mean look at Gallifrey, the Doctor thinks it's beautiful, EEA and UNEP people would probably get heart attacks if they see what the planet look like. That really freaks me out when I think about it. (PROSE: Twice Upon a Time). Like a crack of some sort. The Nightmare Child shrugged it off but it was clearly slowing down. whatever it is, it was probably way bigger than a dalek command ship(which is most likely very big) to be able to enter its jaws Sclera1 13:33, October 26, 2010 (UTC). (PROSE: The Third Wise Man), Cass Fermazzi had an encounter with the Nightmare Child. Some sort of dalek/cthulhian horror hybrid of some sort. I've always imagined it as a large, demonic child head, but that's just me. the Dalek shrieked. 'Cos I cannae remember it being mentioned previously! Delton Menace 13:50, March 6, 2010 (UTC), I thought he meant it more as a metaphor... like saying a Christian saying "with the angels" for a peaceful death, "the jaws of the Nightmare Child" could be a Time Lord euphemism for hell. We have no idea what kind of creature this was, or if it was even alive. The Nightmare Child thought that this reluctance to push the limits of regeneration had no justification other than squeamishness, and increasingly felt it an indulgence her people could no longer afford. One of the first Time Lords to take the threat the Daleks posed seriously, she came to Karn with a proposition. So keep imagining, but as yet you haven't quite got there!Feumas 23:52, February 20, 2010 (UTC), I think it is some sort of large creature capable of consuming planets and ships,it has been said it has Jaws and i remember hearing on this wiki somewhere that in a comic strip the doctor claimed to have 'laughed in the face of the nightmare child'.Now if something has jaws and a face that sounds like some sort of creature to me.Something else from the time war i would like to know more about is the could've been king and his armies of meanwhiles and never weres,i assume from the names that he is an entity which creates alternative and rejected timelines in a simmilar way to the trickster.--666hotline 13:53, February 27, 2010 (UTC), To agree with 6666hotline, I thought of him as similar to Faction Paradox from the novels 86.183.23.10 17:37, February 27, 2010 (UTC), Unless ofcourse when the Doctor meantions it has a face, and jaws, its like reffering to "the jaws of defeat" or "the face of evil" ya know? 6:15, oct 26, 2010, I think it's Paris Hilton when she was younger. He spoke of it as if it was one of the biggest, baddest, most evil things out there. In this case, Dalek Caan fished him (and possibly his ship) out of the Nightmare Child's mouth. Or something like that and was used by the Time Lords as a weapon agianst the Daleks. (PROSE: Twice Upon a Time), Rassilon's plan to return Gallifrey to the universe would have allowed the Nightmare Child and other horrors to come out of the Time War and into reality. Well, I always imagined The Nightmare Child was a gigigantic, deformed shell-less Dalek that just grew while it feed from both sides, like tumor, especially because it was what crashed Davros Commandship if I remember right. (COMIC: The Forgotten) The Testimony Foundation had footage of the Doctor trying to defeat the Nightmare Child. In 2540, a scientific group of no more than twelve grey Daleks, led by a Dalek Section Leader, attempted to learn the technique of invisibility from the natives of Spiridon, operating from a laboratory. The Nightmare Child ripped, tore, blasted, oozed, burned, and lashed at the massive Dalek fleet that opened fire on it. CONDUCT EMERGENCY MANEUVERS!'' Weird... Delton Menace 02:39, January 3, 2010 (UTC), The Nightmare Child is one of those Time War things that can't be shown or described, because it's too complicated for the human mind to grasp. https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_Child?oldid=3069914, Coincidentally, the Nightmare Child backstory from. (PROSE: The Third Wise Man) Cass Fermazzi had an encounter with the Nightmare Child. Davros planned to destroy it by luring it to the Gates of Elysium. --203.168.176.42 13:12, July 27, 2010 (UTC). So the two most powerful civilizations in the universe ever are going at it with the gloves off; bad enough. ), so perhaps it was born from the bloodshed and hatred? Because the Nightmare Child was mentioned yet again in The End of Time, it raises the question: what is it? (The Third Wise Man) In actuality, Davros was saved when Dalek Caan broke the War’s time-lock and took him to the post-war universe. It defenantly has a face and jaws, which are bigger than a borg cube. if we were told what it was or looked like it would spoil it lots of thing about the time war. Davros saw it as the "perfect Dalek," rising above the flaws of every other Dalek. The single greatest conflict to ever blemish the universe, simultaneously existing throughout all of time and yet none of it. "Don't call me 'Doctor' Davros. (PROSE: The Whoniverse), However, after escaping New York, Dalek Caan fell into the Time War and saved Davros at the cost of his own sanity. Matta jr 21:04, February 20, 2010 (UTC), I think that it is meant to be something beyond the realms of post-childhood imagination, so you are therefore all wrong. Edit No other info Availible Edit Davros Edit Davros is the creator of the Daleks, he was thought to be dead when his ship flew into the jaws of the nightmare child, but was saved, when Dalek Caan, (Last surviving member of the Cult of Skaro), flew into the time war and saved him. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. As Dalek Caan recounted, "[he] flew into the wild, and the fire; [he] danced and died a thousand times." Or maybe he was the ultimate dude in the time war, walking around causing trouble for both the daleks and, the time lords, obliterating whole platoons on both sides on a whim or a tantrum. (PROSE: The Day of the Doctor) The Nightmare Child quickly became out of control, wanting to consume everything like a hungry child. DalekVictor554 08:59, July 27, 2010 (UTC). https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Howling:What_IS_the_Nightmare_Child%3F?oldid=1914552, the Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres: People (possibly only Daleks due to the Master's stance) erased in the Time War due to time manipulation on both side as said in The End of Time...or more abstractly, just people trapped in the Time War (since they can no longer affect other time periods, so they are sort separated from the current timeline of the Doctor and the Master), the Could've Been King: The could've been victor of the War (possibly Dalek Emperor due the Master's stance), the Horde of Travesties: Just bad stuffs in general that costed many lives during the War. The Daleks are not any better: progenitor machine that have the intelligence of accepting testimony from a deceitful enemy but not good enough to automatically generate Daleks when the Dalek race is about to extinct; control panels that could disable or control all Daleks are always placed in a location convenient to the enemies and made so that Doctor/DoctorDonna could operate it; and make a reality bomb because they have too much time on their hands...sorry, I mean plungers (come on, if you have enough time to steal planets across all of time and space then you probably have enough time to just invade the Universe...especially when you know that the Doctor will come across one of these missing planets at some point because he also has too much time on hand, and you bloody stole Earth, the planet that he is always on). The Nightmare Child is a vague, unspecified threat that the Tenth Doctor mentions, along with a laundry list of other horrors, that the Daleks or Time Lords unleashed during the Time War. --Catkind121 12:03, February 17, 19237142010 (UTC), Maybe, like the tardis, its a living ship. With Rod Serling, Janice Rule, Shepperd Strudwick, Terry Burnham. (PROSE: Doctor Who and the Time War) The War Doctor fought to prevent the rise of the Nightmare Child (PROSE: The Day of the Doctor) and made arrangements for it "to never arise and [to] forever be aware of its non-existence". Because the Midnight entity is incorperal, and the Nightmare Child is described as having been something corperal: they knew it was male, they mentioned jaws, they could see it. Davros is a genius who has mastered many areas of science, but also a megalomaniac … But it would be good to see it in the new series. "So you've finally joined the war Doctor? A rupture in the fabric of reality due to the all the paradoxes produced by both the Daleks and Timelords through their time manipulations and time travelling within the Time War. In the short episode, The Dalek that Time Forgot, it actually shows what the Nightmare Child looks like. Straddling the line between the fears of the recent Nazi past, and a destructive nuclear future, they had people across Britain jumping behind their sofas. That is generated from child time lords fear. This is war. Feumas 11:08, February 17, 2010 (UTC), I actully think the nightmare child is a demon, like monster, or some sort of giant thingy that floats around in space eating things all around. The Nightmare Child was the first and only specimen of a new type of Dalek, created by Davros during the first year of the Last Great Time War. As the Doctor said that he felt the room getting longer and longer, he looked down and noticed an energy ball surrounding him blocking his sight. but maybe not enough to swallow a dalek ship (mother ship), just plain ships, but also something living. the Command Dalek screeched, and with good reason. The cell door began to open and a red Dalek was waiting. Hope that clears things up! It smashed open saucers as if they were soggy lentils, burst open War TARDISes as if they were confetti bags, and pulled them in to its cavernous maw from which there is … All of that war, suffering, fire and insanity from the Time War could have manifested into an entity which would be dubbed the Nightmare Child, becoming a vile, vicious entity that feeds on chaos, pain destruction, insanity, and life itself. In the Writer's Tale book by RTD, he mentions the full name being the Dalek Emperor's Nightmare Child. That would make sense as Davros' ship was swallowed by the nightmare child and that could mean it crashed into the star or sucked into a black hole. Unfortunately for Davros, this arrangement was short-lived, as his ship would be devoured by the Nightmare Child in the first year of the War, though unlike his guards he would be saved at the last moment by an insane Dalek Caan, leaving his devotees to meet their fiery end. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! (PROSE: The Third Wise Man) However, the Child survived. Midnight was an incorperal entity, but similarly frightening. Saxon 3 20:54, February 20, 2012 (UTC), I think it could be a giant star, or black hole, or some other spacial anomoly. Thanks! Directed by Alvin Ganzer. The Nightmare Child was born during the Last Great Time War. So presumably it's some sort of mutated Dalek creation. He called the War Doctor there, gloating as he and his command ship were swallowed by the Nightmare Child, despite the Doctor's efforts to save Davros. 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